Totem Arts Staff yosh56 Posted October 9, 2017 Totem Arts Staff Share Posted October 9, 2017 I'm not talking about outright removing them from the game, but the CTRL+ALT radio commands seem like they need to be A) Trimmed down slightly, and B) Replaced perhaps with similar voice cues, but used things that actually coincide with the game. E.G calling for mines in a building, or calling out that a building is clear of infiltrators quickly. Seriously, when was the last time you used 'Watch where you're pointing that' ? Seriously. On top of this, a good number of these commands have been woven into Q-spot, which is far faster, albeit unable to be used unless you can see/target the structure. Discuss EDIT: Some of the major candidates for getting replaced/removed "Enemy Spotted" [Made obsolete by Q-spot which has more detail anyway] 'Destroy That Vehicle' [Once again: Q-spot] 'Watch Where You're Pointing that' - [... Just Z-Taunt to yell at people.] 'Don't Get In My Way' - [This one's actually iffy... but still probably you can just shoot at a teammate if they are in the way] 'Destroy it Now!' - [Same as Enemy spotted/Destroy that vehicle ] Perhaps ALL of the CTRL+ALT commands if proper 'building cleared' and other messages are implemented. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henk Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Something related to having spotted a stealth unit would be nice. I'm too busy with firing my pistol at the stank hoping a teammate will spot it too when it lights up, to type about having spotted a stealth tank. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Arts Staff kira Posted October 9, 2017 Totem Arts Staff Share Posted October 9, 2017 For my opinion , mistakes and glitches and original commands are also part of the game experience of Renegade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Arts Staff NodSaibot Posted October 9, 2017 Totem Arts Staff Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) I agree with you, especially with adding 1 hour ago, yosh56 said: E.G calling for mines in a building, or calling out that a building is clear of infiltrators quickly. have it auto select the nearest building, E.G. CTRL+ALT 1: Power Plant is clear! CTRL+ALT 2: Power Plant needs mining! CTRL+ALT 3: Beacon is not at Power Plant! CTRL+ALT 4: Stealth unit detected at Power Plant! (Or just Stealth unit detected) Some other useful "macros": "Please scan the base for stealth units" "Mine limit is not reached" "Don't overmine" Edited October 9, 2017 by Sarah! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djlaptop Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I would be happy to lend my voiceover and audio production skills (I am a professional radio host/presenter btw) to recording new radio commands. I can, for the most part, make them sound similar to the current ones. Obviously my voice is a bit different from the original actor but I can process them to have the same radio-effect. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djlaptop Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 6 hours ago, yosh56 said: 'Destroy That Vehicle' [Once again: Q-spot] I use this a lot when I'm repairing a building that is getting fired upon by a vehicle that my team seems to have no interest in destroying. Typically I'm repairing the refinery on Mesa or Whiteout and nobody seems to care that an arty/mrls is pounding the hell out of our building. Q-spotting in this situation isn't really an option, but good ol' Ctrl+4... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djlaptop Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Another option is to leave the legacy radio commands and add new combinations with the Shift key. That opens up 40 new slots. Edit: Only 30 new slots. It could be 40, but that would disable number-based weapon-switching while sprinting. Edited October 9, 2017 by djlaptop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandal33 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I find me and some other players use the radio commands at the right situation. I say keep them, but I'm okay with adding new ones. Watch where you're pointing that: said a lot when teammates attacked me by mistake, it's like saying "it's me, not the enemy" or when a teammate is shooting my empty vehicle, etc. Similar command to Hold your fire which the game radio command needs. Destroy that vehicle: I use it more than pressing Q. Maybe make this one more detail similar to pressing Q when aiming at an enemy vehicle would be nice. Building needs repairs: used a lot when a building health is low, this one ain't useless for sure. Enemy spotted: Still useful when you can't aim at the enemy but you know they're there. Like when I'm sneaking in a base and I saw an enemy, then another teammate arrived and I wanted to warn him about a nearby enemy in case that enemy disappears from sight. Can also spot proximity C4s which Q-spotting can't. Don't get in my way: is still useful. It's more specific telling someone to get out of your way than shooting him. Might be useful if an ally tank is in your line of fire, then maybe shooting him while radio'ing this should give him a personal message to get out of the way? Destroy it now is the only thing obsolete as they are more specific radio commands on attacking/destroying enemy targets. And all 10 CTRL+ALT radio commands are useful, not sure why they should be replaced, I don't need to point at something within my weapon range just to issue a radio command. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I'm all for removing the Ctrl + Alt menu completely, and replacing a radio command with "Mines!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madkill40 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I never did like the radio commands only ever stating 'Powerplant' and 'Refinery' out loud, but never Weapons Factory, Barracks, Hand of Nod & Airstrip. Replacing some radio commands with current sayings seems like a good idea as well. So long as the style of the new radio commands mimics the style of C&C then all is fine. In fairness, (not how difficult this is to do) but holding down Alt and menu popping up which allows the player to drag their cursor over a radio command would be far easier to use than Alt + "which frikken number do I want to- Oh yes!" "Move Out!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Arts Staff roweboat Posted October 9, 2017 Totem Arts Staff Share Posted October 9, 2017 Some good additions: "I need a ride!" or "I need a pickup!" (with location tag) "Need evac!" (with location tag) "Spread out!" or "Scatter!" "Behind you!" The only ones I use seriously are "I need repairs" "Move out", "Fall Back" "Take Cover" "Return to Base" all others are covered by Q Spotting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryz Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 4 hours ago, Agent said: I'm all for removing the Ctrl + Alt menu completely, and replacing a radio command with "Mines!" That would be my most requested command! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radeon3 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 11 hours ago, yosh56 said: Don't Get In My Way' - [This one's actually iffy... but still probably you can just shoot at a teammate if they are in the way] In the heat of the battle they won't notice you shooting at them. Instead of that gently underline that their relocation would be nice. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djlaptop Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Can we get a "Warning: Poi!" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axesor Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 "Loosing mines!" "Missing mines!" Standing at certain building, it would type "Power Plant is missing mines!" in the chat. "Clear." Standing at certain building, it would type "Power Plant is clear." in the chat. "Watch out!" "Need a ride" - I like that suggestion @roweboat +1. I often need a taxi to perform some actions, but need to stay infantry and not risk to loose my vehicle if I die. "Incoming!" 13 hours ago, yosh56 said: 'Don't Get In My Way!' I actualy like this one to show my concern publicly and so everybody could hear that pls do not remove! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFO Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, djlaptop said: 'Destroy That Vehicle' [Once again: Q-spot] I use this a lot when I'm repairing a building that is getting fired upon by a vehicle that my team seems to have no interest in destroying. Typically I'm repairing the refinery on Mesa or Whiteout and nobody seems to care that an arty/mrls is pounding the hell out of our building. Q-spotting in this situation isn't really an option, but good ol' Ctrl+4... I'm using it too (for example when repairing the Refinery on Islands). 14 hours ago, yosh56 said: 'Destroy it Now!' I'm using it when we are losing everything and only 1 building left Edited October 9, 2017 by UFO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryz Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 21 hours ago, Radeon3 said: In the heat of the battle they won't notice you shooting at them. Instead of that gently underline that their relocation would be nice. Almost never use this command, but I hear that (especially when I shoot from the tank in sort of first person) I block people or push them cause I don't see them. So in this case it is very much usefull... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madkill40 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Whenever I point at a person and use a directional or user-specific command something should pop'up on that players screen about it. So if I radio command Ryz who's fat mammoth ass is blocking me by mistake he will be informed, actually indicated on his screen that I sent the radio command to him. Heck, if other commands like 'Move out!' referred to the location nodes as well when called i.e. "Madkill: Move out! [GDI Base Entrance]" Then eventually, in-theory, more players would be aware of who is calling that and where they are, similar to how Q-spotting works when you Q-spot an enemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maties7 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I think the implementation of radio is not user-friendly. Just try execute some command with shortcut ctrl+9 with one hand. Another problem is that you can't select Hand of Nod and Barrack from command list. I also have problem to memorize the most of commands. There should exist more intuitive system, maybe shorcuts like for buying vehicle and characters. For example ctrl(open menu) -> 4 (Defence...) -> 3 Refinery. Or system like in Battlefield (https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/4/47/BF2142_CR.png/revision/latest?cb=20110724171131). Also command should be more exposed on screen (again look list of command in bf). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Arts Staff roweboat Posted October 12, 2017 Totem Arts Staff Share Posted October 12, 2017 I have always hated that "I'm in position!" is tied to ctrl + 9. THAT'S NOT EASY TO PRESS WHEN YOU NEED TO LET THE TEAM KNOW "I got this guys, stop freaking out". Cuz in the course of trying to say "I'm in position", and ward off the enemy & disarm some c4... you might no longer be "in position" ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madkill40 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Soneone give me a shortlist, will try a mock'up tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madkill40 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Here's a tester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaffelen Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Madkill40 said: Here's a tester. I don't know how to say this so I'll just say it... You sounded kind of like Cartman there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerDoggo Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I would switch up the more important ones from ctrl+alt to ctrl and less important ones to ctrl+alt. Im up for adding new commands but not too many. Also please move the radio commands list so they dont get covered up by the kill feed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--==00G==-- Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Personally, I would prefer less, but more useful commands. Rarely in games do I hear them used that often, most of the time the important messages are typed. Also, could we get an option to rebind commands? (or is this possible through .ini editing?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn4ke Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 @yosh56 / @Agent if you're reworking the sounds / radio commands - could you PLEASE add an audible *SURRENDER VOTE INITIATED* sound? because either I'm 100% blind (+ my mates as well), or we dont get the damn polls displayed it's annoying as .... if some noob surrenders for no apparent reason at all and some sheep just let the poll pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syntharn Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) "Requesting reinforcements!" with a radar ping on my location or something could be usefull. I know you can mass spot enemies by holding Q to give your team an idea of what your dealing with, but in the heat of the action it can become awkward. it usually ends up with me spotting everything while in the dead mans camera. "Watch where you're pointing that!" and "dont get in my way!" are just pure Bad Manner troll emotes actually "Don't get in my way!" would work better as a taunt. "Destroy it now!" i find to be a morale booster command in the style of "let's f**k em up!", kinda useless but i love it. "Destroy that vehicle!" is also a bit useless since the double spot says just that, but for when i can't actually see the vehicle it can be somewhat usefull. Lets say im playing walls and an arty starts whoring our ref, if i was stuck repairing the ref i could say "The refinery needs repair!" - "Destroy that vehicle!", indicating to my team that a vehicle is attacking our ref from most likely far away. Edited October 22, 2017 by Syntharn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxes Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 'C4 stuck on me' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMayhew Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Definitely need a "Mines!" command, and every time you hammer it down it increases in urgency: "Mines" "MINES!!" "MINESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS" etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j0g32 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I think we should revisit how to deal with comm spamming. "Focus fire" is already helpful. But as pointed out before (can't find where and who) sometimes people can only communicate with regular text chat, which gets flushed away within seconds. Is it possible to reorder the item to the top, when it gets issued again while being displayed? Regardless of what the underlying mechanics to use that command; e.g. CTRL ALT or Q spot, or commor rose menu or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 On 9-10-2017 at 8:22 PM, djlaptop said: Can we get a "Warning: Poi!" that would be gold 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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