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Alright, let's try more trouble shooting.

Select all your blocking volume and delete them all. Rebuild path and try again.

To be safe while deleting the volumes, go to your Group tab in content browser and hide all buildings. Then show them later before rebuilding path

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Issue has been fixed. [Big thanks to @Fffreak9999]

Something had made a cube the size of the precomputed visibility volume, so @Handepsilon, you were right in something blocking the nodes all along. 

 

Lights are being rebuilt.

 

Hurray!

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Changes as of 04 December:

  • Terrain has had a texture overhaul
  • Collisions 
  • Base Layouts completed
  • Path nodes re-added
  • Spotting Area's re-added
  • Minimap remade and reapplied
  • Misc Changes

To Do:

  • Decorate / Weather
  • Endgame Cam
  • Fix reported issues

Updated map info:

Frostbite Redux

[Beta]

A GDI research outpost within the confines of Russia's mountains has been alerted of a nearby Nod Base, clearly the Brotherhood has been drawn here due to the exceedingly rich bounty of tiberium among these icy tops and have already begun scouting the area. Both teams are to find and secure the silo as well as the Communications Center, there are reports of a damaged silo within the area so approach it with caution! Both GDI and Nod will need to be as harsh as the terrain on this battlefield. Good luck out there! You're gonna need it...

Map specifications:

-Non-flying

-1 AGT, 3 GT

-1 Obelisk, 3 GT

-Night map

-Frosty

-Bite'tee

-Icy

[ReadMe.txt, this is your "How to install the map" guide]

 

Beta released: 

 

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Okay so the ice just isn't very nice, or look enough like ice... transparency is what I need, is this possible? @j0g32

I want to have rock and then between player and the rock there is ice. Material ice.

Rather than have ice which you cannot see anything through like in the current state of Frostbite.

I can probably create an ice texture I just need it to be see-through so would lowering the opacity on the texture file in photoshop do the trick? Or is there some voodo in the SDK which can allow this?

I.e.

the-girl-looks-through-ice-lake-baikal-siberia-russia-island-olkhon-c1mah2.jpg.155f0311f5c5c6b041e8024ca38cc4a9.jpg

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No, making the texture transparent (adding/changing its alpha channel) alonw will not give you a transparent material in UDK.

If you want transparent / see through ice, you have to set your ice material to translucent (this is a setting  of the material itself, which allows you to use the plugs for opacity). It might also be called lightnig model, where the default is something with Phong.

You can then use a constant between 0-1, or masks to control the opacity. Such a mask could be taken from your texture's alpha channel.

 

Check this out:

https://docs.unrealengine.com/udk/Three/MaterialExamples.html#Translucency

You might also want to add some distortion / light refraction:

https://docs.unrealengine.com/udk/Three/MaterialExamples.html#Refraction

Or even sub surface scattering.

Generally, might be helpful to have a look at the documentation and examples ;)

 

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On 2017-6-19 at 2:13 PM, Madkill40 said:

Okay so the ice just isn't very nice, or look enough like ice... transparency is what I need, is this possible? @j0g32

I want to have rock and then between player and the rock there is ice. Material ice.

Rather than have ice which you cannot see anything through like in the current state of Frostbite.

I can probably create an ice texture I just need it to be see-through so would lowering the opacity on the texture file in photoshop do the trick? Or is there some voodo in the SDK which can allow this?

I.e.

the-girl-looks-through-ice-lake-baikal-siberia-russia-island-olkhon-c1mah2.jpg.155f0311f5c5c6b041e8024ca38cc4a9.jpg

Its very hard to produce such a shader without completly blowing away the low-end computers. These shaders are very expensive. It requiers a custom lighting model and personally I dont see this happening without a dynamic opacity mask based upon the camera and multiple textures. Height offsets included.

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Apply a rock material (without any ice) to your rocks > duplicate your rocks > scale up the duplicates > apply an ice material to those now slightly larger duplicates.

Tip for making the ice material: don't look at references from real life, but at look at ice from other (Unreal 3) games, or even the icicles we have in the UDK.

 

Edit: tried with the icicle material, didn't look good because the rock's pivot point itsn't centered, and the ice material could be a little better for this use. It looks good on the icicles though.

the way that icicle material visually deforms what's underneath or behind it is very good, try using that same technique for your ice material.

 

Edit 2: Was thinking about this again, maybe it would work if the ice material was denser/more opaque.

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If you want to try my solution from my previous post:

- Export the rock to a static mesh

- Open in 3DS Max (or other compatible 3D modelling software)

- Duplicate the rock and scale the duplicate down, try to align the rocks perfectly

- Export & Import into UDK so you have the 2 meshes combined in 1 mesh

- Apply rock material to the inner mesh, apply ice material to the outer mesh

Not sure if this will look the way you want, but you can give it a try.

 

Better than having 2 seperate meshes, because you won't need to enable transparent selection, you only need to select 1 static mesh actor when you want to move, scale and duplicate, and you can't mess up the positions anymore. Be sure to keep the original pivot point of the rock, so you can replace all your rocks quickly, and without messing up the original positions.

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Delving into 3DS Max will be out of desperation. I'll bear that in mine but I've never used a 3D modelling program before.

I've been toying about with the materials to get a better looking ice.

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I've also redone the two side vehicle paths and made them wider and removed a bunch of static meshes.

I've also closed off the middle of the map to vehicles.

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Redlines are infantry only paths.

Greenlines are where vehicles can go. (As well as infantry, but clearly I got carried away with the word 'only') 

Edit: Just noticed a red line between the green lines in the upper-right hand side, pretend that is green.

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Released an updated version of Frostbite. Need opinions.

Changes as of June 24th 2017

  • Terrain modified
  • Textures modified
  • Static meshes reduced
  • Vehicles can no longer pass through the middle of the map
  • Vehicle tunnel to GDI is no longer a tunnel
  • Widened vehicle routes on one side of the map
  • Tiberium mists are now blue
  • Ice looks more like ice
  • Background surrounding the map has been modified
  • Misc changes
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Spoiler

BehindTheScene.jpg
It's possible to get out of the map (have to take a screenshot where you can jump over the border collision) - there's a mountain in front of us. you just can't see this half :D
BlockedTunnel.jpg
Tunnel is blocked from this side (probably general collision instead of a vehicle collision only?)
BlockMapBorderInfOnly.jpg
T.O. told me, that you didn't block certain map borders, because you want tanks to be able to push other tanks from the cliffs - but please block all the map borders where infantry has access only.
FullStuckSouthernSilo.jpg
Full stuck - southern silo
SoftBorderIssue.jpg
Near GDI Tiberium field you probably placed a soft border facing the wrong way. Countdown will expire whatever you do -> you'll die.
TrapCaveEntrance.jpg
Anyone is welcome to explore this lovely cave! Except to never come back.
TrapCaveLocation.jpg
It's located in the middle of the map next to that empty Humvee. Maybe you should also consider to make a new overview map as it's very had to see your own position on it. :/

 

2 hours ago, Madkill40 said:

Thoughts on the look of the map?

Well, I'm not sure yet. I haven't played / tested it for months and today I had trouble to orientate myself. Your design is really confusing. ( @Gliven xD)

Maybe I just have to spend more time on Frostbite ;)

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@Madkill40 ~2 days ago we spent some hours on Frostbite - have no clue why I never spotted that b2b position :S

Spoiler

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B2B on Obelisk / Nod Refinery possible
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two stucks - near GDI PP
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you didn't fix the PP jump? xD
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missing collision near GDI Ref
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Submarine has only collision on top..
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some more screens from top of the sub and the surrounding rocks
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missing collision
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why is this blocked?
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welcome to Madkill's secret torture lab
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if @Gliven went missing - search here! (Mad's trap pit - part of the bunker lab) :P
ScreenShot00461.jpg
full stuck...
ScreenShot00463.jpg
missing collision

I'll post T.O.'s screens later

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@Madkill40 T.O.'s screenshots

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GDI-HarvStucksSometimes1SecondAfterLoado
GDI harvy stucks (sometimes) for ~1 sec after dumping
HolowRock.jpg
hollow rock
LightNotOnLamps.jpg
light...
MultipleStuckSpotsBetweenGDI-BaseAndSout
multiple stuck spots
OnlyOneCrateSpawnPoint.jpg
just a single crate spawn?
StuckArealNearSouthSilo.jpg
stuck area near southern silo
StuckArealNearSouthSilo2.jpg
see above
StuckBetweenWallAndAntenna.jpg
stuck spot between low wall and antenna

Personally I won't proceed testing the current Frostbite version, I'll wait for the next release ;)

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Changes as of August 12th 2017

  • Terrain modification, middle of the map heightened
  • Obelisk lowered
  • Static meshes reduced
  • Nod vehicle path converted into infantry path (Nod can no longer cut-midfield to their tib field from outside of their base)
  • Nod infantry path converted into vehicle path (Nod now have an extra entrance for vehicles from base to tib-field)
  • All volumes have been remade using 'geometry pen'
  • Ice materials on some meshes have been modified
  • Fixed reported issues thanks to 'Renegade X Testing' for their useful reports
  • Widened vehicle mid-field area for better combat (near the over-snowed bunker)
  • Increased fog
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On 8/13/2017 at 9:44 AM, DarkSn4ke said:

@Madkill40 since you didnt react on Discord :D

 map is bugged. collisions are bugged... some weird ice cave monster eats any GDI vehicle as soon as they leave the WF :P

check your collisions please

This is irritating.

I have replaced and moved the WF.

I have set volumes to 'no collision'.

But despite all this, the Harvester STILL decides to spawn in the ground, as does any vehicle purchased.

Halp me? @kenz3001

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