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I kept pushing our team to buy apaches nonstop with techs, and we did, and got the bar. But then after that, everybody started doing their own thing. After we lost our Ref, we pretty much gave up. Only thing I knew was going on was an SBH c4 rush, but after we lost our PP, I heard the rush didn't go well. Throughout all of our games, we never really committed to any plans really. If we did, it took sooooo long for people to understand what was going on, and by the time we got organized, the other team figures out what we're doing and scrambles a counter. We also had no dedicated sniper.

Not going to lie... rappelling sounds useless when we all already have parachutes. Airlifting vehicles MIGHT get considered down the line... like WAAY down the line. It could work with a movement penalty depending on what the Chinook is carrying. But still, I can see so many cheap spots being exploited.

GDI oppurtunites on Under: 1. Able to sneak in Strip/Hon with smoke through hill 2. Able to rush OB with smoke through tunnel 3. Able to hit Ref/Strip from outside the base 4. Able to line up meds, mammys, and MRLS behind the rocks near WF to easily gun down vehicle rushes 5. The whole map is built to suit GDI tanks 6. Able to sneak into PP/Hon through back 7. Infantry hill/pipeline in GDI base has PLENTY of cover for snipers/patch/etc compared to Nod's little metal platform Nod opportunities: 1. Able to sneak into PP/ref though back

Any plans on changing Under to give Nod an actual chance to win?

The vehicle limit also must be limited down to 3 and also have a x3 increase in price. I can imagine a team turtling with 12 APCs, and that will keep things frustrating for the other team.

GDI's APC is the worst. Bump into anything and you lose all control. Nod APC is annoying when you're trying to turn because the angle is so sharp. Trying to go past a corner? Bam into a wall. Sometimes, because it's so floaty, the tires aren't actually on the ground when you make a sudden change in direction making turns impossible. Driving Buggys and Hummers is like driving on ice. They just skid around way too much especially from taking damage, making them so easy to destroy. The Tib Sun Buggy though, is perfect.

Driving these things are such a pain in the ass. Every couple of seconds you'll crash into a wall or rock or bump into teammates (which pisses them off). APC rushes are commonly thwarted by wonky driving. I understand the incentive to try new things, but why is the four wheel steering and APC weight staying around? I'm pretty sure nobody likes the way these vehicles behave as of right now.

This with a vehicle limit of 3 and another price increase.

Out of town, can't make it to this one. Have fun!

This one can go really well with RenX.

Awesome pug! Volcano and Walls were the best. Canyon though, Nod won even when GDI had a full harvy advantage. :>

Add the start launcher as a non-steam game to your steam library. Rename it as Renegade X.

I'm in!

Simple:

That was really fun, can't wait for the next pug! ^^

I'd like to try one out.

Nod gets stealth generators and GDI gets auto-repairs and ammo resupplies, all as purchasable items specific to the faction.

What was the reason in the first place to get rid of the 150 credit only crates ~5 minutes at the start of a match? Or was this just completely forgotten when changing the tib sun vehicle drop rate.

The crate farming will be real

Apaches are loud, so I can't see how it can sneak up without the MRLS knowing its presence. And no, its not screwed if it has friendlies around (which in most cases, it does). Orcas and Apaches actually do need a nerf in fact, and I thought its the most prominent one. They're way to versatile: unstoppable rushes, map control, covering beacons, infantry transport, they can do everything very well except sneaking.

Not sure about the part against vehicles. Artys are definitely better at close range, I agree with that. But anything from medium to long, MRLS are just simply way better because you don't need to aim (lock on does everything for you) and the max damage output is almost identical assuming all shots are hit. The Arty projectile speed nerf made it really hard to hit moving targets at longer ranges. You need to adjust how high or low you need to aim in your first couple of shots, and then you need to start predicting how a vehicle moves around. You don't need to do that with an MRLS as of right now. (Artys will often miss a lot.)

I think it should be nerfed the same way as the Rocket Soldier's. MRLS completely shut down apaches from a huge distance and are almost in every way better than Artys.

Flame rushes are easily countered if GDI plays like GDI, aka buy a shit ton of tanks backed up by hotwires. The problem here is team coordination, not imbalance.

I don't see the issue here. There's a start delay to make sure most players are loaded in before the game begins, so that's not the problem. Bar, AGT AND guard towers destroyed in a Chem rush? Must have been Goldrush, and even then the AGT and Bar are on opposite sides of the GDI Base. Hmm.

Flamers are perfectly fine. Just push out with meds/mammoths along with hotwires. Easy.