N4CR Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) On the few maps where Transport Helicopters are critical, if you play solely (or mostly) as transport driver you have basically 0 score. The players love you but you have nothing else to show for it And if someone doesn't want to do that sacrifice your team will usually lose, but you are performing a critical service. Would it be possible to have a system where VP is awarded for transport use, e.g. 1 vp per pax per trip (10s minimum cooldown time etc). Just an idea to promote more team gameplay basically - cheers! Edited December 15, 2020 by N4CR typo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isupreme Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Maybe piloting with passengers could pay out like you were healing..... Teamwork should yield rewards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Arts Staff roweboat Posted December 16, 2020 Totem Arts Staff Share Posted December 16, 2020 Pilot auto heals passengers? Interesting idea. I'm sure that would throw balance way off somewhere though. The VP for transportation sounds interesting, but how would that be dictated exactly? What would determine a "trip" lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isupreme Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Not so much heal the passengers.. my thought was more about getting veterancy points similarly to how healing gives.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandal33 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 18 hours ago, isupreme said: Maybe piloting with passengers could pay out like you were healing..... Teamwork should yield rewards. But that would just encourage people to just sit in a transport helicopter all game until the pilot got veterancy or the pilot would purposely move slowly, take the longer path, etc and get rewarded for it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isupreme Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Quote But that would just encourage people to just sit in a transport helicopter all game until the pilot got veterancy or the pilot would purposely move slowly, take the longer path, etc and get rewarded for it. Possibly you are right and it could be abused. But if it only gave a minimal amount of veterancy when there are passengers, I don't think many players would just ride around to give another player some veterancy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4CR Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 Very good points all around. Healing-style payout might be easiest to implement but with max 10 seconds and a cool down to stop farming. Base to plat on walls is ~6-10s depending on how good your flight skills are. So if you don't get VP in that time then it's sort of wasted implementation. But also avoid farming as suggested.. Just thinking of teamwork mechanisms that aren't in this game (nor any other!). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJrade Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 The way Planetside 2 rewards its hard-working transport drivers is by giving them a portion of the XP earned by their passengers for a short time after they exit the vehicle. Perhaps a variation of that would work here? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isupreme Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 That's kinda neat. So a big bunch of gunners that kill a building would mean the pilot was really helping teamwork. Where as just a person here or there would not pay off as much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4CR Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 18 hours ago, isupreme said: That's kinda neat. So a big bunch of gunners that kill a building would mean the pilot was really helping teamwork. Where as just a person here or there would not pay off as much. If you're regularly ferrying to e.g. platform they will hit buildings quite quickly after so you'd actually end up doing pretty well from it, likely close to comparable to actually shooting at buildings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOlsenTwins Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Quite often, when doing a chinook rush, it's difficult to score points as pilot. (if you are not willing to give the heli to the the enemy) So, it would be great to participate in the scores that the other passengers achieve in the minute after exiting. (so that buying a chinnook for rushing is not only selfless but can also reward the pilot) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshbyJones Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 one of those ideas that would be great but are impossible to implement. Give us City Flying first... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshbyJones Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 ...and fix the soundbug... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gex_str Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 7 hours ago, AshbyJones said: Give us City Flying first... Development on it is frozen until Firestorm release. 7 hours ago, AshbyJones said: ...and fix the soundbug... Only if someone would find a way to mess with engine without having source code AND knows where the problem lies in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishyshoe Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Said this before and saying it again... The VP system needs some fixing. I have posted about it here a while ago, yet it seems the devs simply don't agree with me. Or the post was too long... In short - basically I think the VP system should be tied to the game timer - that is, every player gets a constant VP increase every few minutes (see the link for an example), in addition to other bonuses such as killing, repairing, etc. until they reach Elite rank - and then only bonuses from killing, repairing etc. apply to them. That also means that if a new player joins (for example) 30 minutes after the round started, his/her VP can under no circumstance be higher than that of a player who was actively playing all those 30 minutes doing something useful as being a taxi pilot. I think this is stupid that a newly-joined player starts with more VP than a player who played the entire match, doing even something as basic as taxi-ing or even AFK-repairing a building (imagine you had a player constantly repairing a building from the start - wouldn't you think that player helps you actively? that player reduces damage from surprise rushes and buys their team more time to eliminate the threat...) Not to mention it's quite ridiculous that if two new players join at the same time - the player which joined the leading (possibly stronger) team gets more VP than the one who joined the other (possibly weaker) team. Doesn't sound fair to me. In other words - the rich get richer. Doesn't help balance. So - if the solution I suggest in the abovementioned post was to be implemented - the problem with taxi pilots is pretty much solved or at least becomes smaller - since they don't get (much) behind in VP compared to the rest of their team, and they surely won't have less VP than players who join some time after the game started. I hope you get my point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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