Red Alert 2 Modification

[ZeroDictator]

The model looks great! I do like the extra width mostly it seems to give the model a nice touch. Firstly the extra width looked strange from the front view but now it looks fitting.

Keep up the good work! I can't wait what awesome models you bring us next

[Ska-Ara]

The model looks great! I do like the extra width mostly it seems to give the model a nice touch. Firstly the extra width looked strange from the front view but now it looks fitting.

Keep up the good work! I can't wait what awesome models you bring us next

thx dude i do the best to mak them good looking.

today i startet with making the Grizzly Tank

Heres the very basic start . The weird looking one is the Original Voxel Model from RA2

[Ruud033]

So.. whats up? it's been a month, how are you doing?

[RoundShades]

I hope he is doing as good or better than I. I like this idea. I am working on something and can understand how working on something that is relatively new to you can take time, but I hope the voxel translations give him something to mount as a vehicle model first, and then he can worry about their ingame script later.

[Ska-Ara]

So.. whats up? it's been a month, how are you doing?

yea still living and alive. i tried some stuff at this time to expand my texture skills but im horribly failed

the most tuts in the internet just shows texturing simply models.. i found none which explains how to make a map of a fully tank or something similar

i think i take the texturing to the very end after i made all models.. maybe i find someone who can help me.

next week i try to show some new vehicles

[Handepsilon]

I guess it's just a matter of photoshopping. Maybe put some metal texture overlay or such like that...

[Ska-Ara]

I guess it's just a matter of photoshopping. Maybe put some metal texture overlay or such like that...

make "color" and "details " on the map itself is not the problem. to make this make is the problem.

i can easly unwrap a cube.. but to unwrap a tank with all his details.. thats very hard

[Ruud033]

You're completely missing the whole point there! You unwrap a boring version, then AFTERwards you polish that diffuse map with photoshop!

[Handepsilon]

uh well... unwrapping takes patience. In my past experience I textured the high poly version as good as possible without unwrapping it (you're not even gonna put it in-game anyways. Then I project the texture AND the poly detail with the unwrapped low-poly version to form the normal and diffuse map. Projection are not always that easy due to all those raycheck misses, but you're gonna need it for the normal map anyways so make it as great as possible

What's the poly count of your tank btw?

[Ska-Ara]

You're completely missing the whole point there! You unwrap a boring version, then AFTERwards you polish that diffuse map with photoshop!

thats true. but WHEN im photoshopping a map.. it should be look like something usefull.

f.e. if i just take automaticly unwrap und do a flatten mode.

it would look ugly... something similar to this google pic

https://optimisticpainter.files.wordpre ... our_uv.jpg

but to work good in photoshop it would need something more tiny up like this

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/cnc ... 0502100624

uh well... unwrapping takes patience. In my past experience I textured the high poly version as good as possible without unwrapping it (you're not even gonna put it in-game anyways. Then I project the texture AND the poly detail with the unwrapped low-poly version to form the normal and diffuse map. Projection are not always that easy due to all those raycheck misses, but you're gonna need it for the normal map anyways so make it as great as possible

What's the poly count of your tank btw?

and thats another matter.. im not that skilled that i can make for every model a high and a low poly version. you guys dont need to expect that my mod will look like the renx qualitiy. thats not MY goal und more less my skill level. i want to make a game where u can play and feel RA2 like. and in my opionion the ppl will love to drive a gryzz tank even its not looking like a "game dev skill" vehicle ^^

so in this kind my model has now about 3k polys.. and the finished one will have about 5k

[Handepsilon]

3k seems alright for the game, Although if it's all boxy you can optimize more to 1000, I believe. I think you can unwrap and stitch it piece by piece, as comfortable-looking as you can

[Ruud033]

Can you post some progress screenshots? You're doing awesome work mate.

[Ska-Ara]

i think this is ok for the moment. the rest will make the later mapping.. so i hope

next Infantry Fighting Vehicle short IFV with his different Towers

[Alkaline!]

Is this going to be a new mode or are these going to be new maps that can be played in the regular game. It would be great if they were just maps, this way they can be added to the regular rotation and we can have a mix or renegade and red alert

[Ska-Ara]

hey guys one question. i extracted the ifv from the ra 2 datas.. theres about 14 different waepons for the vehicle.. most of them are experimental.. a drill.. a tower.. a dont know.. lots of unsable stuff.. but there is a gun..

did u guys ever see this ingame?

[Agent]

Looks like a flame turret, to me.

[Handepsilon]

Yeah, I can only think of this certain unit that might have something to do with that gun. He has these certain quote

"I am but a student!"

"He has taught us well!"

"Hail to the great Yuri!"

[Agent]

Initiate?

[Ska-Ara]

Initiate?

it was from the ra 2 datas without yuris revange so it could be .. but dont think so maybe another experimental

[Agent]

Was just responding to Handepsilon when I said Initiate.

It's totes a flame turret.

[Ska-Ara]

nearly finished ifv

found some small bugs.. but think its ok so far?

you see the 4 main types of the ifv and the original ones at the backside of them

next vehicle is mirage tank

[[TmX]Super-Kh]

I can't wait to play this >.<

playing with the IFV alone would be fun

[ZeroDictator]

Those IFV tanks look awesome! Great work Ska-Ara!

[Ska-Ara]

Super-Kh":dt3zcphw]I can't wait to play this >.<

playing with the IFV alone would be fun

I have changed my plans a little bit. After the Allied Vehicles i start to make soviet vehicles .

After that i try to make them all usable for the game. So it could be easier to play them alone as with the complete mod

i think for the most ppl its a good solution to try my mod and try some good old ra 2 vehicles maybe i find someone who want to make a ra 2 map for me

Those IFV tanks look awesome! Great work Ska-Ara!

thx dude

[Handepsilon]

found anyone who'd like to script it yet?

[Ska-Ara]

i have a scripter in the background. but has no job for him at this moment.

my full fokus is modelling of the vehicles these days^^

[Handepsilon]

Make sure the model is properly prepared for him. Name your bones properly and without spaces. like this.

b_root

b_gun

b_turret

b_muzzleflashsocket

b_wheel

etc.

Also, how will the weapon morph and switch to default rocket turrets?

[[TmX]Super-Kh]

Make sure the model is properly prepared for him. Name your bones properly and without spaces. like this.

b_root

b_gun

b_turret

b_muzzleflashsocket

b_wheel

etc.

Also, how will the weapon morph and switch to default rocket turrets?

maybe just use the trick westwood used.....................................it just happens lol

oh also about that unknown turret thingy,there are some infantry that you can't build and they are special,I think they are only accessble from the YR mapping tools

[Handepsilon]

For example?

[[TmX]Super-Kh]

For example?

those CIA guys with pistols,the hollywood actors from YR the second mission of allies,oh and I think there is a unit called chrono Ivan

[Handepsilon]

Slip a spy into a soviet lab. You get Chrono Ivan technology

[XD_ERROR_XD]

Super-Kh":3irgb6uc]

For example?

those CIA guys with pistols,the hollywood actors from YR the second mission of allies,oh and I think there is a unit called chrono Ivan

Yeah, you're correct but the Chrono ivan was accessible in skirmishes though. You had to change some variables in the Rules.ini file if you wanted to purchase them, and possibly import them into a map if you wished to play it with the changes online. I remember making a lot of maps for Red alert 2... Including the modding, considering how incredibly easy it was... ^^

[Ska-Ara]

back to topic dudes

Make sure the model is properly prepared for him. Name your bones properly and without spaces. like this.

b_root

b_gun

b_turret

b_muzzleflashsocket

b_wheel

after the modelling i will prepare all the vehicles like shown in the havock videos.

Also, how will the weapon morph and switch to default rocket turrets?

i dont have any idea of unrealscripting. but i think there could be a possibility to "switch" a vehicle after an trigger is used.

f.e. G.i goes into ivf>G.i is driver trigger pulls>command: change modell of the ivf to Gunner one> vehicle changes

my progress so far

[Agent]

"Nothin' here but us trees!"

I'm looking forward to those trees!

[ZeroDictator]

"Nothin' here but us trees!"

I'm looking forward to those trees!

And of course: "Mean, green and unseen."

But anyway, mirage tank is looking good so far! It will be interesting to see how the "tree planting" will work.

[Handepsilon]

Maybe like SBH, y'know. With some volumes to and arrays to choose the best tree/decoration to be

[RoundShades]

"Nothin' here but us trees!"

I'm looking forward to those trees!

And of course: "Mean, green and unseen."

But anyway, mirage tank is looking good so far! It will be interesting to see how the "tree planting" will work.

In that regard, the tree mechanic is neat and all, but functionality wise it might be best to incorporate stealth-effect to it instead of tree-model. That way, it isn't map dependent or very awkward...

Obviously stealth effect linked to movement, it unstealths when moving and stealths when standing still.

[Ska-Ara]

so heres the finished mirage tank

just joking

heres the real ones^^

next and last allied vehicle the prism tank

[Handepsilon]

That's a nice tree though

[Ska-Ara]

hande are u handy with texturing?

i think after finising these allied models i want to bring them first to the game and after that i make the soviet vehicles.

so i need some skilled texturing dudes and maybe i unreal scripter for build in special features and such stuff.

[Handepsilon]

No I might be able to UVW but I'm terrible at painting and comppsiting textures

[Ska-Ara]

So heres the Finished Prism Tank

And for better Oversee here the other 3 Main Vahicles for the Allied Army.

At this moment i wanted to make the Soviet vehicles. but cuz the big expactation of this mod. i try to bring these 4 vehicles into the game.

So the first step is texturing them.. afther that bring then into renx

as the start they should be scriptable or i crates for costum/test servers^^

wish me luck dudes

note: the first site has some reworked ^^

[Handepsilon]

I'd say your pal should try to tackle the scripting first if your untextured tanks are already rigged (Hopefully you're not dumb enough to weld the turrets with the main body ) think of it as prototyping

[Ska-Ara]

i attached all together BUT there are all own parts so there are selectable easily^^

i try to texture them. if i have no usefull result. we try it without that

[hm shark]

Hey, i can make you the soviet tesla coil ! hehe since it is easy ( but i need the original 3d model and i dont know how to extract it from the game files)

Amazing work, keep it up !!

[Ska-Ara]

âh thx but there is no need for this

how i said. first i try to make this vehicles ready to playing and after that i start making the soviets^^

btw there are no original Buildings models. there are something like a diashow. just vehicles are models

[Handepsilon]

i attached all together BUT there are all own parts so there are selectable easily^^

i try to texture them. if i have no usefull result. we try it without that

Then you're good to go. Just don't weld the vertices.

[hm shark]

@ska-ra

I think i remember that u said that texturing will be a problem. if u sculpt some details into the tanks, then the texturing will be much easier. The details can be dents and scratches for example. look up real life tanks online and u can see how the metal should look like or when playing renegade x, just stare at each tank for 10 min and see how the details were sculpted and how the textures are. im sure u can also extract the textures of the tanks in renegade x to examine them.

Edit: oh and dont forget, in renegade x, the texture changes when the vehicle gets more damaged. hehe more texturing work for u

[Ska-Ara]

@ska-ra

I think i remember that u said that texturing will be a problem. if u sculpt some details into the tanks, then the texturing will be much easier. The details can be dents and scratches for example. look up real life tanks online and u can see how the metal should look like or when playing renegade x, just stare at each tank for 10 min and see how the details were sculpted and how the textures are. im sure u can also extract the textures of the tanks in renegade x to examine them.

Edit: oh and dont forget, in renegade x, the texture changes when the vehicle gets more damaged. hehe more texturing work for u

the texturing isnt the real problem.. more the unwrapping ^^

[hm shark]

Now, i am not the best at uv mapping lol, but i can try and unwrap 1 of your tanks.