[C&C Renegade on Windows 10?]

Try changing compatibility settings to xp.

[More mines for Nod on flying maps ?]

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25 minutes ago, dr.schrott said:

 

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2 of them, planting c4 on the outside of the Ref or PP (or even WF on opportunity), and then dumping laser fire onto the MCT

This assumption includes that SBH have already entered the building, this means they have disarmed the mines, which would be noticed!

That is not what is being said. Timed C4 on the external part of the building, and walking to the door to open it and fire at the MCT is what they are stating. It does not require entry into the building.

[Server Crash]

So I am assuming this fix went in today?

I hope it did, it is a pain to keep having to restart the servers when they crash.

[A clear list of which actions are legal and which are not]

The lights are removable at individual map level, but the Devs would need to consider removing the lights from the airstrip prefab in the SDK for anyone to really consider changing the maps in the future.

[[MAP] Frostbite Redux 1.2.5]

The in-game launcher will not be able to download a file of that size.

Try ensuring that the External game launcher has permission to go through your Firewall, including Windows Firewall.

And then double check.

otherwise download the map individually through the download page (click downloads at the top of this screen)

[A clear list of which actions are legal and which are not]

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Is it logical that only an APC and only backwards can drive that fast? NO...

The Nod APC isn't the only vehicle capable of doing this action, it just happens to be the sturdiest of the vehicles which can do it.

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Is it logical that you can place a static object like a beacon in another static object like a specific rock or a lamp? NO...

In this case, the logical action would be to say no, however if they were to gain collision, vehicles would end up clipping the lamps on the strip and may be prevented from leaving it, due to the layout of the lamps, and as for landscape based ones, that is up to the map creator to fix, rather than the game being fixed.

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If the barrel is colliding through a wall of some kind then it should disable the firing mechanism.

This is used on certain vehicles already such as the Medium Tank and Mammoth Tank(?), I remember Agent mentioning something about this before.

[Pick Up Games (PUGs)]

You are assuming that those people will be available, in my case, I only take part once per 2 weeks, Bong is not playing RenX atm, and is not turning up for PUGs, Yosh is unable to attend every PUG and Agent rarely turns up as well.

So in that list, There is only 1 regular attendee (who isn't there all the while), 

For your Team Captain list.

Quinc3y - Regular player, capable commander

Ryz - Regular player, not a calm commander,

Jeff - Regular Player, Capable Commander, can administrate the server fully

Yosh - Irregular Player, Capable commander, Unable to administrate the server (at server box level)

Bong - Extremely Irregular Player - Don't count on him playing

Yagi - Regular Player, Untested Commander (Never seen you be one)

Myself - Semi-Regular, Can command (prefer not to), can administrate the server fully.

 

So from that list, on weeks when I am around, you would have aprox 3-4 reasonable commanders, however if none of the admins are available, then that makes operating the server awkward, you would not be able to get the password to the server. I try to make myself available to give the password in advance, but sometimes that may not be possible. 

[A clear list of which actions are legal and which are not]

It only allows the Flame Tank to do so at extreme close range (Directly next to it).

[A clear list of which actions are legal and which are not]

@YagiHige the game allows players to shoot through the wall, and there is not much a moderator can do at that state, since what are you going to do. Kill that player? Your actions at that point could make or break a rush's chance of success, since the player is attacking, and the fact is you (if you are on the GDI) you would be accused of abuse of moderation powers

[Pick Up Games (PUGs)]

Unfortunately such actions are much more complicated than that, since an influx of players to a server will cause massive disruption to the server they are joining, and then require people to be manually moved to the correct team, this can result in more trouble than it is worth. 

While we have the necessary tools to create another server, you also have to take into account that you would rarely get more than 40 players total for a PUG so having an admin organise the gameplay on another server is going to be awkward.

Choosing a team captain is also an issue in the fact very few people are "suited" to the role, not in terms of the ability to organise, but in terms of being able to lead.

We struggle to fill a true "Leader" position even on one server as people are looking for people who are charismatic, loud and able to command the team to victory. Without this person in place, you are effectively hosting a public game (with a tiny bit more teamwork) and the fact there are very few people with microphones who fill this position in the first place.

[Delete or change Surrender vote]

@Gliven that command will not work on CT servers due to the Admin version of that command running on every match, recording full demo files of every match.

But in return we only need to know the match and time, and what server to look at.

[Delete or change Surrender vote]

10 minutes ago, CONTRA49 said:

I stopped following this after my last reply because my blood was boiling off. But I just wanted to add that just now, in a full server, maybe not 20 minutes into the game on Field, GDI surrendered after losing only 1 (ONE) fucking building. It was the Barracks. Like what the literal fuck. Why bother playing? There were people aimbotting with Laser Chain Gunner in the previous 2 matches. 35 kills to 5 deaths, constant headshots, 195 ping. I tried to get them vote kicked but nobody gave a shit. Then these babies lose 1 building and they can't find the will to play? What the fuck is wrong with you?

I highly doubt that anyone was aimbotting they would attract a much higher attention of moderators, and depending on the player who it was there is probably a much likelier possibility of them just playing that class a lot and they are good players.

But if you have suspicions of someone why not Modrequest?

[Is this YOSH's PRIVATE game ?]

At the time in question, there was in-deed no need to be forced to GDI.

If you encounter actions you believe unfair, then a ModRequest at the time of the issue will normally solve the issue, or at least set a point of reference for me to check.

The act of rage quitting is a concern since if you mention anything which can be seen negatively will also shine a negative attitude on the server, since players will assume that a Moderator took the action to remove you, normally wait a minute or so and then leave, or state that you are taking the action to leave of your own will. Even though we the moderators know what happens, the regular players do not, and while the players may still return, their opinion of the server could be damaged because of hastily chosen actions. Also a friendly message to all saying "I'm out" or anything like that will also help players have a more positive attitude towards you.

[Is this YOSH's PRIVATE game ?]

After viewing the demo file and the IRC logs of the time in question,

Teams were actively balanced at the time of the change, and that no Team swapping was warranted.

However you also need to be aware that just because you may not always get to be on Nod, and you should not just leave a match or complain/team stack when you cannot get your way, since other players are affected by your actions (in the past this has been an issue), you will be subject to Team swapping where stacking occurs.

However in the case presented before me, both you and Yosh had both been in since the pre-game and both of you swapped team,

You moved from GDI to Nod and Yosh moved from Nod to GDI straight after each other, more people joined after you, which in turn balanced the team automatically.

[Mining]

I am sure there used to be a visual counter displayed in a prominent position when you had proxy mines equipped.

 

I don't know why it vanished

[Is this YOSH's PRIVATE game ?]

You will be forced to play whatever team the balancing requires, if you intentionally stack a team, you are subject to that server's moderation policy about Team stacking.

If you are on a team by default there is no reason for him to single you out as a player and force you to play a particular faction.

Yosh is capable of doing that as a Server Administrator of Constructive Tyranny and a Developer of Renegade X. All he did was enforce the policy. I see no reason why Yosh would take action otherwise. If you need me to review the actions he took, let me know the match (time and date) and I will review our logs.

[A clear list of which actions are legal and which are not]

You can definately achieve the same effect on the GDI side, although not quite as easily.

And as for beacons being blended into textures, in the case of HON, how are you to know who to disarm since if a mine is untargetable, you don't know who planted it, and also do you want to risk disarming ALL a potential player's C4 when a player could quite easily end up invading in that short time.

The only way to prevent this is to update the HON's collision for these locations.

However for other locations, so long as they are disarmable, there is no problem, even if they are annoying, if they prove game breaking, pass the info onto the Devs or the Map creator, since they are the only ones who are allowed to change it.

The key fact is as follows:

Server moderation will only happen when things are completely unable to be dealt with by normal players.

You may argue that the HON issue falls under that, however the mines can be dealt with, albeit awkwardly, using an EMP grenade.

[Full Custom Map Installer]

As I posted on the other thread as well, all the ZIP files that are used should be following the correct hierarchy and as such this bat file should not be needed, as the folders should literally be drag and drop.

[Custom Maps Crashing Servers [NOT TRUE]]

The server also has to go through the process the first time it loads a custom map. 

Meaning if it is the first time that particular server has ran the custom map, then it needs to build shaders and other related things to play the map, which can also lead to a longer loading time. But this is still a one time event, and not the server "Crashing".

[Unpack zipped maps- there is a autmate script]

Hi, the Zip files we produce for the RenX communities already have the folder hierarchy in place, this means it's just a drag and drop to your renx install.

This should not be necessary for anyone to use.

[A clear list of which actions are legal and which are not]

Hi All

In terms of what I would say require moderation (at least on CT).

 

- Flaming humvee/buggy (Not an issue - It requires active participation by 1+ people, and consumes a vehicle in the process, so doesn't outbalance the gain or maybe destroying a Guard Tower/Turret)

- Flame tanks firing through the back of barracks (And to a lesser extent C4 hitting through walls) - While this is annoying, there is not much that can be done about this at a Server level, even moderating this is infeasible since the buildings allow this to occur (not just the barracks), this would need to be changed at Overall Game level to really have an effect.

- invisible remotes on a stank - This can't be moderated, as the game is what causes this, not the players.

- Hiding beacons inside the lights at the end of airstrip - No need to moderate since it can be detected and countered, it is annoying but perfectly disarmable.

- Driving some vehicles (like Nod APC) backwards down the hill for highly increased speed - It would need to changed at game level to not be used, and as such will not be moderated

- Invisible (thus not disarmable) mines at HoN MCT on some maps - Not going to be moderated, since the mines are placed in a legitimate area, the fact

- Partly invisible (disarmable) mines at HoN MCT on some maps - Again not going to be moderated

- Climbing building stairs on the outter side of the railing - Not going to be moderated, there are preventative mining precautions that will stop this if players feel like this tactic will be used (using no more mines than is normally permitted)

- Placing beacons that partly blend into the walls of GDI PP (still disarmable) - Where the beacon is truely disarmable, it will not be actioned, but if it lands at a undisarmable location, and moderators should disarm it.

- Same as above when you blend beacons inside no-collision rocks where you can only see bits of them - there's a spot like this on Snow next to WF front door - No collision rocks should be reported to the Map Creator, and then collision can be added. Until that time, the beacon if undisarmable will be disarmed by moderators.

- Disarming beacons through the wall of a building (can be easily done in WF) - Again, very little can be done to stop this outside of building changes made to the main game.

- Walls: entering Nod base with tanks by jumping the wall on the airstrip side - GDI also faces the same issue with NOD units doing the same.

- Whiteout: infiltrating Nod base by walking out of the map (https://youtu.be/7AtBrmhozjw?t=826). I think there's a similar path to GDI ref as well. - Nod can do this to GDI but much easier, SBH can make the journey undetected completely.  The map would need to be made to restrict this action, otherwise players are able to use it until then without punishment, as the map designer hasn't intentionally restricted it (and it doesn't break the gameplay greatly)

- Gobi: b2b sniping (B2B should not be accepted and should be reported to moderators, I will put an announcement in the bot to remind people of this, but the map creator needs to change the map slightly to prevent this action as much as possible)

- Under: jumping on top of Nod PP - This can be prevented by blocking volume over the PP on non-flying maps. Anyone found abusing this will be dealt with my moderators.

- Complex: hitting HoN from just in front of the GDI base (central part) with gunners/rocket soldiers/MRLS - Depends on exact position, but if you have any examples, we can look at if it counts as b2b (and could do with map changes) or if legal.

[Swarm Agent on new SDK]

I am having the same issue.

[Where to download the SDK?]

I'll check the archive at the next chance I get, but there is a lot of new stuff added since the last one

[Matchmaking]

The current problem with team mode 3 is that it tends to stack teams to 21v19 or for example 6v4 at no fault of the joining player.

this over balancing is an issue and leads to calls of team stacking.

 

 

[Mining]

"A player acquires 50+ [Player] kills from mines alone in one game"

That would be VERY few people if anyone , since once mining has actually begun, people are far more weary of trying to disarm them in advance, and the fact 50 would be too high, I rarely get 10 kills in a marathon match from all sources as a base defender. 

This would likely cause scenarios of boosting mine kills which is not ideal either.

And having a Whitelist populated by an admin/moderator as well would not work since you would A. Need an active Admin/Mod and B. Still doesn't prevent overmining which is the majority problem in the first place. Agent's solution is much better, but still not perfect.

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The assigned commander in the commander mod should be able to disarm all mines

This would be good, but it would require someone to actually work on implementing a working true addition to the base game Commander mod, since currently only CT runs the Commander Mod.

As to a solution to prevent flooding of mines in the late game, possibly implement an increasing cost purchasable, which increases in cost as the game goes on, starting at say 50 credits for 1 in the first 2-4 mins, and maybe 300 at 20 mins or later (This is only an example, and would definitely need balancing if this was to become a thing)