Ant Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Hello. I finally found free time to check out Renegade X, but it didn't want to launch on my very old 32-bit Windows XP Pro SP3 box (3 GB of RAM, 512 MB ATI Radeon 4870 video card, etc. -- see http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/My ... rStuff.txt for the full details on my primary Windows box). I downloaded these four/4 files: 06/30/2015 05:07 PM 2,099,161,344 Renegade X-Beta 5-1.bin 06/30/2015 05:11 PM 286,165,063 Renegade X-Beta 5-2.bin 06/30/2015 05:11 PM 838,214 Renegade X-Beta 5.exe 01/10/2016 02:16 PM 1,361,213,487 Rx_Patch51Manual.zip 4 File(s) 3,747,378,108 bytes I hope these are the right files to install and upgrade (overwrote the old files). Launching its Launcher shows: "...\Renegade X Launcher.exe is not a valid Win32 application." Launching the game loads a black fullscreen with an animated hour glass cursor for like a minute and then crashed with this: http://pastie.org/pastes/10682876/text? ... jtibaum3qw ... I also noticed Windows Task Manager showing UDK.exe hogging a lot of memories like 1.5 GB! Is that right? Thank you in advance. Edited January 12, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryz Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 It's hard for me to make anything out of the log you supplied (but hey I am not a pro), First of all have a look at the specs: https://renegade-x.com/forums/viewtopic ... 14&t=71612 I can't see your CPU, so... Than I would suggest is: - Download the 'big' exe file from the site or torrent - Install it - Update from the launcher Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
player7331 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 "UDK.exe hogging a lot of memories like 1.5 GB!" Well, you could start in upgrading your pc. We live in an era of gaming that take up a lot of memory power. It also could be your OS, because Windows XP is quite old already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundShades Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Yeah. Best bet, is to clean your XP install as good as possible so the OS itself takes up less than 200kb when running. Nothing else running in background. Then, try to install Ren-X. Then, manually change settings to "ultra-low [link]". Even then, I am calculating it taking at least 3.3gb of ram, so you need at least 1gb more of ram. Now, if your computer has a spare ram slot, or motherboard supports higher ram per slot, i'd tell you an upgrade may only cost 40 dollars. However, I must also tell you 40 dollars, to make a fairly crummy computer run a little better, is still a poor idea considering a computer with 8g ram you may find for like 300 dollars if you look good and well enough. Then again, maybe if you have some throw-away computers lying around somewhere, you can borrow ram from it if you did have an open slot. If you want to try it for free though, setting it to bare minimum settings, makes the game run about 2.8g at main menu, maybe a little higher in-game, so it's your best bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Arts Staff yosh56 Posted January 11, 2016 Totem Arts Staff Share Posted January 11, 2016 I'm only concerned with how you ended up with those files. Where did you download from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) I'm only concerned with how you ended up with those files. Where did you download from?I don't remember. I downloaded them back in the summer of 2015 from Renegade's web site. I just never found the time to install and play. I'll redownload. Edited January 12, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RypeL Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 In reality you need atleast 4 GB of ram. With 3 GB of ram you would need to do some serious hacks to your PC like mentioned to make the OS use less ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 In reality you need atleast 4 GB of ram. With 3 GB of ram you would need to do some serious hacks to your PC like mentioned to make the OS use less ram.Windows says I have 2.5 GB of RAM, but people told me that the missing 512 MB of RAM is used by the video card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 I downloaded http://denver1.renegade-x.com/RenegadeX ... a%205F.exe and reinstalled, with its patch, after uninstalling my previous installation. Same results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 It's hard for me to make anything out of the log you supplied (but hey I am not a pro),First of all have a look at the specs: https://renegade-x.com/forums/viewtopic ... 14&t=71612 I can't see your CPU, so... Than I would suggest is: - Download the 'big' exe file from the site or torrent - Install it - Update from the launcher Good luck! The CPU is listed in my link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 ... If you want to try it for free though, setting it to bare minimum settings, makes the game run about 2.8g at main menu, maybe a little higher in-game, so it's your best bet.I can't even get to the main menu to configure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 In reality you need atleast 4 GB of ram. With 3 GB of ram you would need to do some serious hacks to your PC like mentioned to make the OS use less ram.Hmm, the link said 2 GB of RAM is required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Arts Staff Handepsilon Posted January 12, 2016 Totem Arts Staff Share Posted January 12, 2016 As UDK could run in XP, shouldn't be a problem really. It looks like you have some faulty installation Try using other mirror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 As UDK could run in XP, shouldn't be a problem really. It looks like you have some faulty installationTry using other mirror I already tried two different download servers. If I had a bad download, wouldn't the installer fail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RypeL Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 As UDK could run in XP, shouldn't be a problem really. It looks like you have some faulty installationTry using other mirror RenX is using more ram then just UDK. It's not like all UDK games would need the same amount of ram. It is almost certainly crashing for him because of ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 As UDK could run in XP, shouldn't be a problem really. It looks like you have some faulty installationTry using other mirror RenX is using more ram then just UDK. It's not like all UDK games would need the same amount of ram. It is almost certainly crashing for him because of ram. Ah, so I really need 4 GB of RAM then which is a problem for me. OK, I'm going to give up by uninstalling and retrying when I get a hardware upgrade. Someone should upgrade the system requirements. Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryz Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hope you have new hardware soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Arts Staff yosh56 Posted January 12, 2016 Totem Arts Staff Share Posted January 12, 2016 Honestly, we really should update the system requirements. Granted I'm pretty sure I could get RenX to work under his hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Honestly, we really should update the system requirements. Granted I'm pretty sure I could get RenX to work under his hardware.Prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorB0NG Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Trust me, you don't want to play Ren X with 2 gb of RAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RypeL Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Yeah we should update the sys requirements. The current system requirements we just copied over from UDK. But the UDK specs are what you need to open up the UDK editor. Playing a full RenX map with all vehicles and the huge amount of sounds and effects etc is a little more demanding then a small UDK project. We already did quite some experiments to get ram usage down by different packaging methods etc but it just was a pain and never really worked it was just a waste of our time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Yeah we should update the sys requirements. The current system requirements we just copied over from UDK. But the UDK specs are what you need to open up the UDK editor. Playing a full RenX map with all vehicles and the huge amount of sounds and effects etc is a little more demanding then a small UDK project. We already did quite some experiments to get ram usage down by different packaging methods etc but it just was a pain and never really worked it was just a waste of our time. So, what are the official requirements for Renegade X. I was misled that it would run on my ancient setup. So, is it really 4 GB of RAM? Edited January 12, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Trust me, you don't want to play Ren X with 2 gb of RAM.OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundShades Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Yeah we should update the sys requirements. The current system requirements we just copied over from UDK. But the UDK specs are what you need to open up the UDK editor. Playing a full RenX map with all vehicles and the huge amount of sounds and effects etc is a little more demanding then a small UDK project. We already did quite some experiments to get ram usage down by different packaging methods etc but it just was a pain and never really worked it was just a waste of our time. So, what are the official requirements for Renegade X. I was misled that it would run on my ancient setup. So, is it really 4 GB of RAM? It would only run with 3gb ram, if you did everything I said. As Yosh said, I too bet I could rig it to work with 3gb, but it would be just barely and would require the computer's idle to be as smooth and blank as possible, if steam in the background, then absolutely nothing else like "desktop widgets" and "speccy" and possibly even intensive antivirus and firewall software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Try gamebooster or any similar program that shuts down processes you don't need when playing to free up ram. Even then, 2 GB is ancient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share Posted February 9, 2018 FYI. On the same exact ancient machine, I was forced to install a new 64-bit (can use all 6 GB of RAM) W7 HPE SP1 due to a hard October 2016's HDD crash (clicks of death). So, I recently retried the game. It ran just fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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