Evono Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Lets say you pack the entire game into a Rar archive ( with password ) and then you seed it via a Public torrent already to 70%-80% then no one can do something with it are a shitload of people with slow or fast connections can already download it and share each other with 70-80% and at the 26th you just seed the last 30-20% and all people got it did ask this via twitter some days ago are no answer.... Would be just good for slow connections and way faster delivery too people at the 26th and later because much more data is already around Edited February 25, 2014 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omega79 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 i think thats a sweet idea ... maybe seed all files but 1 (the 26th maybe?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evono Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 i think thats a sweet idea ... maybe seed all files but 1 (the 26th maybe?) ye thats why i asked this Multiple times before on Renegade X twitter before... no answer still and via torrent it would be insanely safe for the devs so it doesnt get released earlier as the 26.... its just a preload and would be cool + lets say at start of the 26 5000 will dl it via torrent so its like 1 or lets say 200 seeder on 5000 that will be extremely slow.... are if you let us Preload there are like 3500 seeder + downloading people Only pros for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evono Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 24 Views and no one says Something about this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaTe Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Even if this were to happen it wouldn't be public information... In order to spread out traffic you would theoretically have to release it privately. Whether or not this is going to happen is a mystery as of now. We'll have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSoldier Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Do you know about "Last minute" changes, fixes, and what else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaTe Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 With the new patch system implemented, last minute changes can all be added into one large patch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omega79 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Do you know about "Last minute" changes, fixes, and what else? you know that professionals do not do this? normaly you "lock up" a software in a stable version a few days b4 you push it out to the public ... last minute changes have a very high risk of making more troubble than they do good ... even with a public beta you would delay any (minor/huge) change to a stable version to a point after the release last minute change caused a lot of delays ... and ofcourse dates with a too high preassure this does not mean that the devs are not keep on working on the game, but most decide to not touch a stable version like a week b4 the release ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evono Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Do you know about "Last minute" changes, fixes, and what else? Ye still its actually bad to hold of I guess 10-15 gb just for 100-200mb changes or even possible 500mb changes . its better to spread allready savely a Passworded rar with the game in to like 80% i mean NO one can open a passworded Uncompletet rar even with the might of all super computer of the world. Even if this were to happen it wouldn't be public information... In order to spread out traffic you would theoretically have to release it privately. Whether or not this is going to happen is a mystery as of now. We'll have to wait and see. i dont see a reason why you need todo it "private" on a passworded rar that get only seeded to 70-80% from 1 dev you cant do shit with a passworded rar that isnt finished from torrent it got nearly at every 2mb unfinished parts ( because torrent splits files into 2mb parts and serious if there still 20% left there will be ALOT of unfinished 2mb parts ) Edited February 24, 2014 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaTe Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 10-15 GB would be ridiculous lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evono Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 10-15 GB would be ridiculous lol why how big is it ? it looks very good Texture wise ( anything else too are textures make the bost Gb parts ) and they can eat fast some gb then all the sounds , maps and such Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaTe Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Can't say for sure, but significantly less than that. There also should be plenty of mirrors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSoldier Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Do you know about "Last minute" changes, fixes, and what else? you know that professionals do not do this? normaly you "lock up" a software in a stable version a few days b4 you push it out to the public ... last minute changes have a very high risk of making more troubble than they do good ... even with a public beta you would delay any (minor/huge) change to a stable version to a point after the release last minute change caused a lot of delays ... and ofcourse dates with a too high preassure this does not mean that the devs are not keep on working on the game, but most decide to not touch a stable version like a week b4 the release ... You know that this isn't from a "professional" team? [Even though it looks like one.] That was actually done. There might be just the possibility of a compilation of bug fixes though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idebo Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I'd be happy to seed for the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valor Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Someone on the dev team works at a server hosting company, and they won't host the game on third-party sites, so I think they're confident there will be enough download slots. Do you know about "Last minute" changes, fixes, and what else? This is very dangerous, as trying to fix these changes could cause more problems and next thing you know the game is delayed. With the new patch system implemented, last minute changes can all be added into one large patch. Did they finish this already? 10-15 GB would be ridiculous lol Game is around 4 GB, as stated many times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evono Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 actually on twitter they agreed to make a torrent after release my question is todo as preload ^^ Source of twitter answer to torrent from ren X https://twitter.com/Slerion/status/431066282448793600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valor Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 They have a torrent for Black Dawn too, in addition to a dedicated server in the U.S. and several third-parties for other countries. http://mirrors.renxgame.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goztow Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 The patch system works. And I am afraid this full beta test will indeed be just that, a beta. But a playable one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evono Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Official message to time for release "Keep an eye on the Renegade X website!" https://twitter.com/RenXGame/status/438007704158998529 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaTe Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 The patch system works. And I am afraid this full beta test will indeed be just that, a beta. But a playable one. This. It was a first test go in the recent beta build, and it worked with complete success AFAIK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valor Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Great, now I have hopes that it'll be released early. Me: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evono Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Great, now I have hopes that it'll be released early. Me: Same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedhart Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Yall need to calm down. Im just as excited as you all are for this game, but preloading a partial torrent would be more of a pain in the arse than its worth. For one, you would need to superseed it (so that the full torrent was out in the wild), and you would need to sit there and purposely stop the seeding before the share ratio was full; since theres no way to make a torrent client only partially seed. On top of that, to utilize this system to do what you want, you would need to use multi-file RAR archives, which would confuse the average person. Second, you would have like 10k people bitching and complaining on the torrent site "SEED PLXZZES!!11!11!" when everybody got stuck at 90%. Third, you cant guarantee that some of the people you superseed to would remain connected on Wednesday, thereby negating the advantage. Im all for a torrent release, but trying to take advantage of the peculiarities of P2P systems is really not the answer to ensure you get the game a couple hours earlier than you normally would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evono Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Yall need to calm down. Im just as excited as you all are for this game, but preloading a partial torrent would be more of a pain in the arse than its worth.For one, you would need to superseed it (so that the full torrent was out in the wild), and you would need to sit there and purposely stop the seeding before the share ratio was full; since theres no way to make a torrent client only partially seed. On top of that, to utilize this system to do what you want, you would need to use multi-file RAR archives, which would confuse the average person. Second, you would have like 10k people bitching and complaining on the torrent site "SEED PLXZZES!!11!11!" when everybody got stuck at 90%. Third, you cant guarantee that some of the people you superseed to would remain connected on Wednesday, thereby negating the advantage. Im all for a torrent release, but trying to take advantage of the peculiarities of P2P systems is really not the answer to ensure you get the game a couple hours earlier than you normally would. Just actually seed it to 60-80% and press stop. no super seed or such needed if atleast 1 other guy got 60-80% its totally ok to press stop. + with a passworded rar you dont need splits + torrent splits the data ANYWAY in 2mb parts up for better seeding and such if its 500 rar parts per 4mb or 1 big file a 1,7gb it will be all 2mb parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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