HaTe Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 https://www.change.org/p/electronic-art ... n-approval Please read this petition and sign it if you are for this action. Note that this is currently an unoffical petition; as the developers have not (yet) signed it. Signing it shows your support for the advancement of this game nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryz Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Please check with the developers what their plans are. So far they haven't made any announcements about what they are up to. Your intentions are good, but maybe the devs. don't want to draw attention to their game at this moment. Your petition might even harm the progress they've possibly made behind the scenes. Thanks for your effort, but I suggest disabling the petition for now until some feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RypeL Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Yeah i think it might be better to wait with it for now. I think we should contact EA again in about a month or so. Right now they are releasing BF Hardline so i dont think we should press the issue on them right now. In the next email to them however we plan to make clear that we are waiting on a Steam yes or no for them since 2012. And that we are running out of options. If they still dont give us something to work with then, then i think a petition might be good and could help to get EA´s attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaTe Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 I had sent this to jam and fobby about a week ago via forums pm. They didn't respond, so I then made it public without any apparent objection there.. I contacted fobby via the Facebook page and he got back to me there informing me that his forums inbox is most likely full and that he hasn't been able to clean it out yet. I re-sent the message to him there, so just waiting on that response now. The petition is directed at EA but I believe that they will not even view it until it is sent to them in some form of letter. So it getting signatures now shouldn't hurt anything, but will just increase the total number in the long-run. You can correct me if I'm wrong though with that; I do not claim to be a petition expert by any means. Fobby and havoc have been trying to get a response from them on this matter for like 3 years. I've got the impression that attention drawn to the game from them is what they want anyway. Not just now, but even when the game was much buggier and had serious issues. We run the possibility of losing forums viewers and renx players in the future too, so I think there is no time like the present. Again, if any of the lead developers say otherwise, id gladly adjust the petition accordingly. My best interest is for the game solely, and I trust their judgment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaTe Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 Bumping for both signature and developer purposes. Currently at 22 signatures without any additional advertising than this post. If the developers decided to approve of this petition going forward, they could advertise it more and I have no doubt that it will get a significant amount of signatures. Enough to not be able to be ignored. If they do not want this at the current time, I can still willingly take it down. Just would like some official word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XD_ERROR_XD Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Well i already got 6 others to sign it. Word of mouth goes a far way guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaTe Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 Well i already got 6 others to sign it. Word of mouth goes a far way guys! Great work, thank you for that contribution! I think if fobby approves of this, adding a link to it on the FB and twitter pages could do a lot of good. A sticky or announcement would do it wonders. If those actions occur, I can see this getting well over 200 signatures quite easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaTe Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 Bumping this again in hopes for some sort of official word from the (lead) developers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryz Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Bumping this again in hopes for some sort of official word from the (lead) developers. RypeL is developer and he said it's better to wait. Also see this post: http://renegade-x.com/news.php?id=74837 Especially this part: ..In the meantime, we will continue talks with EA to try to get permission to apply to the Steam Greenlight process. The best way to assist us in this is to spread the word about Renegade X, and to show that we have a thriving, dedicated community that brings life to Command & Conquer. We will be sure to keep you updated with any important details. Sorry I have to say it, but why is it so hard to just accept that we'd better wait? Right now the gameplay might still be adjusted, or other things. The developers are focusing on bug fixes and other things before the even concentrate on Steam... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundShades Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Bumping this again in hopes for some sort of official word from the (lead) developers. Ryptel isn't an official lead developer? He sounds like a lot of his arse goes into this game. Eh, collecting signatures early probably won't hurt since I know EA is in fact very slow in reading these on their own. It would most likely have to be sent to them for them to see it. Nonetheless, Rypel is most definitely right. As history serves, pull out a pen and pencil, Battlefield 1942 was developed alongside the sequel for C&C Renegade. Westwood released assets for a destrubtable refinery (?) to show off their progress. Nonetheless, EA wanted to narrow their fanbase support down to 1 game uncompeted, so supposedly to keep one game from competing with the other and dividing fanbase, they scrapped Renegade in favor of BF1942. So, as that very much shows, it is a GREAT IDEA to let BF Hardline to come and go a good distance, before passing this by them. If someone in EA gets the same idea again, they might actually pursue a cease and desist on a steam greenlight for this game distinctly to keep this little bugger from pulling any players away from their precious BF Hardline and/or upcoming DLC. If they don't have BF Hardline on their mind when RenX is asked of them to steam-greenlight, then there is likely no reason they would give a damn either way, and may in fact allow it to greenlight. Just letting everyone know the specific reason for this mindset: NOBODY wants REN-X to get a CEASE-DESIST. That would be LOSE-LOSE. P.S.- Signed, and posted to facebook. I have like 9 youtube subscribers and 40 facebook friends, a whole 2 of them actually play video games at all. I won't make this viral, but a few hundred buffer signatures won't hurt to start with. P.S.S.- Terrible picture for the display pic of that petition. A snowy rooftop, a generic looking handgun, a blur that can't really be made out to a newbie's eye as an orca in front of a refinery? P.S.S.S.- I know you won't want to hear this, but might want to also just toss in the suggestion of adding to Origin, as to not sound demanding to certain conditions, as if it was Origin-Only, at least EA would be using it as leverage to attract people to sign up to a service they provide via a free-to-play exclusive. That isn't the worst thing that could happen to RenX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaTe Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 Sorry I have to say it, but why is it so hard to just accept that we'd better wait? Right now the gameplay might still be adjusted, or other things. The developers are focusing on bug fixes and other things before the even concentrate on Steam... The petition can run as long as necessary. It does not have to be paused and then resumed, because it can simply just stay up and keep collecting signatures. They have concentrated heavily on steam already, if you would bother to read my other posts in this topic before posting. Ryptel isn't an official lead developer? He sounds like a lot of his arse goes into this game. Just going off of the forums statuses. Havoc, Fobby, and Jam are the 3 "lead" developers. The title is important for officialism, actually. I'm all for letting BF Hardline take the spotlight now and sending this into a letter after that spotlight has mostly diminished. I understand that completely, and like you said, there's no reason to pause the petition because of that (it can keep running). The "picture" is the beta release video. I'm not sure where you are looking at it that makes it appear like that? If you can provide a screenshot, I can edit that if it for some reason is appearing as such. I didn't want to put origin in the petition itself because Steam would be ideal. Don't want to directly plant the idea of origin in their minds. If they want to plant it in ours as an alternative, then so be it. Origin would still be better than nothing. Basically, I just want a lead developers support on this moving forward so that I can A. Call it "official," B. Allow them to promote it if desired, and C. Know whether to keep it up or take it down if they're against the petition route entirely for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RypeL Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Jam helps us out with the forum so he is the forum administrator. Thats why he has the highest rank on the forum, wherever you found that. But Fobby havoc and me are the project leaders. Ive talked again to fobby and we agreed that we dont think that a petition would be the right way to approach this atm. So this petition wont get our official support atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryz Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The petition can run as long as necessary. It does not have to be paused and then resumed, because it can simply just stay up and keep collecting signatures. They have concentrated heavily on steam already, if you would bother to read my other posts in this topic before posting. I've seen the other posts and it's not that I am against your initiative. It's more that I think timing (and politics / the way you approach this) are more important than just launching a petition. In order to make things succeed al these factors have to taken in mind. Having that said: It's hard to discuss with someone who will only see one side. Sure the initiative is good, but as posted above my post the developers do not want this petition at this moment. I've been trying to make you understand this in my other reactions. I know a guy who stopped eating to get media attention for a family who was going to be expelled from our country. His reasons where sincere, but after his action hit the media the family distanced itself from him. They didn't want the action and they didn't want him to do a hunger strike. Point you may ask? Your reasons are right, your approach isn't. Don't let yourself get blinded by what you want to do to highlight a certain point. But ask yourself what you can really do to help the community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaTe Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) Jam helps us out with the forum so he is the forum administrator. Thats why he has the highest rank on the forum, wherever you found that. But Fobby havoc and me are the project leaders. Ive talked again to fobby and we agreed that we dont think that a petition would be the right way to approach this atm. So this petition wont get our official support atm. Fair enough. Shall I keep it up to continue to gain signatures for future purposes, or would you like it taken down? Btw its when clicking "developers" in the forums that the 3 "lead" devs are announced, may want to update that. Point you may ask? Your reasons are right, your approach isn't. Don't let yourself get blinded by what you want to do to highlight a certain point. But ask yourself what you can really do to help the community. I am in no way blinded. Its just clear to me that you don't understand that a petition can stay up to gain votes and then be referenced later on. Its not like it has to be submitted by a certain time. You're over thinking this WAY too much, and its making you assume you know my intentions or what I am thinking. You clearly are not understanding my posts, so you should just stop responding or take it to a pm if you really need more clarification. Edited for spelling reasons. On my phone. Edited March 25, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryz Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I won't go into further discussion about this anymore. We know where each of us stands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaTe Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 Just want to bump this because it just hit 50. Keep 'em coming! Remember, this is an unofficial petition. It is kept up to keep signatures coming in until it eventually may (or may not) be used in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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