Just for AoW - "(However the other team should keep their veterancy)" Read entire post. Normal surrender typically ended a (marathon) game so abruptly it took away the victory from the winning team which the losing team did so purposefully snidely it was downright spiteful. AoW should just upgrade the team with the highest points to Heroic in the games' last 5 minutes, it gives AoW a rewarding goal to be the team with the highest score towards the end. A team full of Heroic but n